Very Interesting questions
More questions, and this time some good questions.
While I've little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth
issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM* did so yesterday and believes the issue can be
resolved by Obama answering one simple question:
What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981,
without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and
Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions,
they must have answers.
It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible.
Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof
that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.
And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to
prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or
American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter,the American people need to know how he managed to become a "natural born"
American citizen between 1981 and 2008..
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America ,
as illustrated by his speech before Congress
and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress,
the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don't care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this and go into your cocoon.
Destructive nature of his plans for America as illustrated by his speech before Congress? Which speech? What destructive plans? Continuing the Wall Street bailouts begun by George W. Bush's Treasury Secretary Henry "ex-Goldman Sachs CEO" Paulson? The stimulus package designed to keep welfare queen Red States like Texas, Alaska and South Carolina in the fiscal black?His willingness to talk to leaders of countries that wing nuts don't like, such as Fidel Castor, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or the Russian two-headed monster Vladimir V. Putin, and Dmitri A. Medvedev?
And where is the proof that Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 with either a British, Indonesian or any other passport other than a U.S. passport? There is none in fact,...American citizens traveled freely to Pakistan in 1981. FactCheck.org, June 5, 2009, More "Birther" Nonsense: Obama's 1981 Trip to Pakistan
Every time I read some right wing lunacy like this I get a little more steamed. Why? Because I am devoted to the truth, no matter how ugly, no matter how unsettling. And what really steams me is that somewhere there is some one or, more likely, some organization funded by the same folks who surreptitiously funded reactionary Christian fundamentalists like R.J. Rushdoony, Jerry Falwell, Bill Graham; funded right wing talkers like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews.
Is there a conspiracy?
Yeah! There is a conspiracy. It is a conspiracy to keep Americans at each other's throats over trivia like whether or not the United States is a "Christian" nation, it is not, and whether we should all walk around with a pistol strapped to our hips; whether queers have the rights to fight and die for their country and get married and go through the joys of divorce court. Oh, fuck, that's real important shit. Whenever the history of this era is written, future historians will undoubtedly conclude, early Twenty-first Century Americans were some of the pettiest, stupidest human beings ever to infect the face of the Earth and the tragic fate that befell them couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of people.
In some ways I wish John McCain would have won the 2008 presidential election; then like William Henry Harrison die a month after taking the oath of office leaving us in the tender mercies of President Sarah Palin. Then the dumb bitch could start another unwinnable war, this time with Iran.
At least with a President Palin the death march of the United States would be over quickly. What we are experiencing now is a death by inches.
*Family Security Matters (FSM) originated in 2003 as a project of the Center for Security Policy, a hawkish security policy think tank and advocacy group. Soon after its formation FSM claimed to represent "security moms". While generally supportive of President George W. Bush's domestic and international security policies, FSM have had their differences with the Republican administration over issues such as immigration policy, U.S. policy towards Russian Presdient Vladimir Putin. Since the Democratic ascendancy in the 2006 mid-term elections, FSM have also published criticisms of the Bush administration -- such as those by Newt Gingrich -- for being too cautious in their strategy in the Middle East. SourceWatch.org